tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post5071885752452944219..comments2023-12-11T08:49:46.305+00:00Comments on Dizzy Thinks: The PlanUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-41133422022911556232008-09-25T11:29:00.000+01:002008-09-25T11:29:00.000+01:00> SerfAre you suggesting a "locally electe...> Serf<BR/><BR/>Are you suggesting a "locally elected Sheriff" wouldn't be a politician? Wouldn't go through publicity based decision cycles as re-election neared?<BR/>Your example of "tackling dangerous criminals who put their rubbish out too early" is precisely why we should be care about making control of law and order too local, those sort of 'offences' are council driven. As much as I hate to agree with anything that made it in a lib dem speech, scrapping big ugly central projects like the ID card and associated identity database and using the money to have more real police rather than hat loads of CSOs is a much better idea for reducing crime. Similarly don't spend money on speed cameras have traffic cops who use common sense to deal with the dangerous not the merely a bit fast.<BR/>As for diversity targets, targets and league tables don't solve anything and have buggered education and the NHS as well as the police. But on the other hand I would like all police officers to have *some* idea about diversity and racism issues as they haven't collectively been very strong on this in the past.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00446535470734199043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-27772551982838571142008-09-23T12:42:00.000+01:002008-09-23T12:42:00.000+01:00It was a pleasant dream. And then I woke up and d...It was a pleasant dream. And then I woke up and discovered that I wasn't the emperor of China after all.Heresiarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03515376670031027455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-13642250839183048342008-09-23T12:37:00.000+01:002008-09-23T12:37:00.000+01:00A lot of good ideas. How about, a HUGE Army, Navy...A lot of good ideas. How about, a HUGE Army, Navy and Air Force, too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-70338430952002886052008-09-23T12:23:00.000+01:002008-09-23T12:23:00.000+01:00Hmmm- All good Libertarian stuff- therefore will n...Hmmm- All good Libertarian stuff- therefore will not be adopted by the centre left Tory party ' who believe it is their turn to have a drive'Guthrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499979740864497256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-63639933145976597862008-09-23T12:06:00.000+01:002008-09-23T12:06:00.000+01:00"The POLICE to set sentencing guidelines?? "It doe..."The POLICE to set sentencing guidelines?? "<BR/><BR/>It doesn't say thatdizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-46509304878358395502008-09-23T12:00:00.000+01:002008-09-23T12:00:00.000+01:00The item in that list that scares the living shit ...<I>The item in that list that scares the living shit out of me is: "Placing the police under locally elected Sheriffs,</I><BR/><BR/>Presumably because the current system of placing diversity targets as top priority and tackling dangerous criminals who put their rubbish out too early, rather than punishing poor benighted souls, whose exclusion from society has led to them butchering their fellow man, is completely ok as far as you are concerned?<BR/><BR/>If you want a two word summation of the complete bollocks state of the current system......<BR/><BR/> <B>Ian Blair</B><BR/><BR/>He is the logical result of a police force that works for the politicians, rather than the people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-37938393343812930812008-09-23T11:52:00.000+01:002008-09-23T11:52:00.000+01:00A lot of those proposals sound like sheer lunacy. ...A lot of those proposals sound like sheer lunacy. People's Bills?? The POLICE to set sentencing guidelines?? And imagine the cost of letting people opt out of their LEA - does that include the 7% of people already at private schools? Replacing EU membership (with anything) in LESS THAN ONE YEAR?? Perhaps my fears would be assuaged if I actually read the book but you're really not selling it to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-73331439783395711492008-09-23T11:49:00.000+01:002008-09-23T11:49:00.000+01:00With all due respect to the LPUK, if these policie...With all due respect to the LPUK, if these policies start to gain an intellectual foothold within the Conservative Party then they actually have a chance of being enacted. And as far as I'm concerned, that's more important than 'who thought of it first' or 'I hate them Tories'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-56519191591751539682008-09-23T10:48:00.000+01:002008-09-23T10:48:00.000+01:00This plan has been published for some time, as the...This plan has been published for some time, as the Libertarian Party manifesto.<BR/><BR/>They Say Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery. We know it will work, so its quite a complement to see such political heavyweights borrowing it as their own work.<BR/><BR/>www.lpuk.orgIanPJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911432983440475284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-51404747607452131732008-09-23T10:08:00.000+01:002008-09-23T10:08:00.000+01:00Most of these policy ideas look very familiar...Ma...Most of these policy ideas look <A HREF="http://lpuk.org/pages/manifesto.php" REL="nofollow">very familiar</A>...<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's time for Messrs Hannan and Carswell to jump ship to a party that actually believes in these sort of sensible reforms?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-29905296505257803172008-09-23T09:37:00.000+01:002008-09-23T09:37:00.000+01:00"a wholesale shift in power from the state to the ..."a wholesale shift in power from the state to the citizen, from Whitehall to elected councillors" - Must one point out that transferring power from London to more local officials does not in any way shift power from the state to the citizen, merely within the political class? God help us if people fail to understand that. <BR/><BR/>Some good ideas here, but I <I>really</I> don't trust people around me to make decisions affecting me, whether voting for local officials or national polticians. Have you met "the people"? They are poorly educated, vulgar, short-sighted and generally irrational. <BR/><BR/>Unusually (it seems), I trust the judges far more than Parliament - the judges tend to decide matters rationally and one can engage with them in argument where the rules are generally quite clear and a simple recourse to assertions of "the people's will" is not a trump card. <BR/><BR/>Doubtless I shall be against the wall when the revolution comes...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-69644183938860609412008-09-23T09:18:00.000+01:002008-09-23T09:18:00.000+01:00The item in that list that scares the living shit ...The item in that list that scares the living shit out of me is: "Placing the police under locally elected Sheriffs, who would also set local sentencing guidelines" this would create a mess of confusion and populist judicial policy. One of the few things the current government is doing which I support are the moves to give the judiciary more independence from day to day political interference. Of course in recent times they have lost momentum on this while they throw bodily fluids at each other like a bunch of caged monkeys.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00446535470734199043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-26721291500743962292008-09-23T09:12:00.000+01:002008-09-23T09:12:00.000+01:00Yes please.Yes please.Croydonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14670533609622717223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-75730751832228982942008-09-23T09:09:00.000+01:002008-09-23T09:09:00.000+01:00Sounds tedious.Sounds tedious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com