tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post4677657254963908236..comments2023-12-11T08:49:46.305+00:00Comments on Dizzy Thinks: It's about ideology, stupid....Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-44581148757490772822007-07-02T22:29:00.000+01:002007-07-02T22:29:00.000+01:00How about this for a scenario:In a few years the n...How about this for a scenario:<BR/><BR/>In a few years the number of militant islamist attacks in the UK starts to really piss off the locals en masse. They decide to take some action to try and kick them out but obviously this is not appreciated by the majority of 'moderate' muslims who then side with the islamists. <BR/><BR/>Things get a bit heated and end up in a little tiff called a civil war. <BR/><BR/>Then another country, lets say china for arguments sake, decides that the UK is mistreating one of its minorities. To stop this it sends a massive task force to the english channel. The shit is then bombed out of the UK and with the threat of ground invasion suceed in preventing the 'ethnic cleansing' that is taking place as part of the civil war where muslims are being forced from their homes.<BR/><BR/>To bring the situation to a close China decides that the Muslims should have their own area within the UK to rightfully call their own. Their own homeland. Lets say Birmingham.<BR/><BR/>Sound a bit unfair? Who's right and who is wrong? If this sounds familiar then just replace 'UK' with 'Serbia' and 'Birmingham' with 'Kosovo' and you might get a rough idea of why.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-39357890078874113542007-07-02T14:12:00.000+01:002007-07-02T14:12:00.000+01:00Were the ANC evil?Yes, next question.Were the ANC evil?<BR/><BR/>Yes, next question.AntiCitizenOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00017073518049848696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-82835462002719606712007-07-02T13:26:00.000+01:002007-07-02T13:26:00.000+01:00The 'unemployment' and other economic arguments ar...The 'unemployment' and other economic arguments are clearly b0llocks - you just have to look at the background of the 9/11, 7/7 and car bomb terrorists to see that. It is, as you say, about ideology. The really tricky part is moving from that and a principled, but sterile, position of 'we must stand firm', to imaginative steps to reduce the likelihood of future steps will not giving in to terror.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, I loved Gorson's 'all terrorists are evil' line. Were the ANC evil? Was the French resistance?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-3157544035904436972007-07-02T11:09:00.000+01:002007-07-02T11:09:00.000+01:00It's funny how when the new bad guys come along, t...It's funny how when the new bad guys come along, the old bad guys are restrospectively granted 'rational' status when previously they were portrayed as madmen who could not be bargained with. <BR/><BR/>We're just marking time with the current bunch of amateurs until a credible 'historical' threat emerges in the form of China and/or resurgent Russia which is why we still spend billions on military technology only useful against conventional enemies.<BR/><BR/>ps I wouldn't have said Nazi Germany and the USSR were particularly 'enlightened', although obviously they thought they were.<BR/><BR/>pps I believe the Al'Qaeda leadership are in fact rational. Recruiting suicide bombers is a perfectly rational move on their part - <I>of course they wouldn't do it themselves</I>.guido fauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066839053548510451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-41337089398309555172007-07-01T19:24:00.000+01:002007-07-01T19:24:00.000+01:00Guys.. so cynical... how about we all just turn th...Guys.. so cynical... how about we all just turn the other cheek as the Christian Theology of george W and Tony B would have them do? I think you may find that the "War" is already lost.. did you know that after Jack, Mohamed is the most popular boys name in the Uk? 1.85Million of our Islamic Brits will out breed anyone else and bring a Muslim State within 50 years maximum.. so just relax.. the War On terror will become meaningless soon enough as Muslim Youth will not feel so disafected with Britain once they are running it. No more unemployment for them!Thor Holthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04565031807511839594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-1055592602908440762007-07-01T10:42:00.000+01:002007-07-01T10:42:00.000+01:00Liningstone is part of the problem, not the soluti...Liningstone is part of the problem, not the solution.Richard Havershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309594787689405779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-43547643019321681302007-07-01T08:37:00.000+01:002007-07-01T08:37:00.000+01:00sniper,What else do you propose we do?sniper,<BR/><BR/>What else do you propose we do?Alastair Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11841993632017096399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-22767184210830914522007-07-01T08:18:00.000+01:002007-07-01T08:18:00.000+01:00Aalastair,Unfortunately, the trouble with Danegeld...Aalastair,<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, the trouble with Danegeld is that the Dane always returns for more. Unless by bribery you mean buying them out as a one-off - unaffordable perhaps?<BR/><BR/>We are at war as Dizzy describes (and more) and we are not winning. A good start would be the exposure of "Useful Idiots" like Livingstone. Sadly, however, the emperor's new clothes that are the stock in trade of the useful idiots, while apposite, remain trapped inside a fairy-tale. And in the modern world fairy tales are not remembered as they once were - teachings of morality and warnings of consequence of foolish actions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-65403053715332982562007-07-01T07:47:00.000+01:002007-07-01T07:47:00.000+01:00But didn't you get the memo? We are all Hezbollah ...But didn't you get the memo? We are all Hezbollah now!<BR/><BR/>You are of course, completely correct. We are at war with an ideology of hate. The real question is this: how do we win it? Currently I'm favouring bribery, it seems so much less costly (and is safer) than war.Alastair Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11841993632017096399noreply@blogger.com