tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post2935358753555789124..comments2023-12-11T08:49:46.305+00:00Comments on Dizzy Thinks: There is a difference between Cameron and BlairUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-7813235621427051842007-04-25T19:39:00.000+01:002007-04-25T19:39:00.000+01:00I hate the arrogance of socialist politicians who ...I hate the arrogance of socialist politicians who think that they can somehow make the world a wonderful place just by passing a few hundred laws every year.<BR/><BR/>Unlike right-wing politicans not a fan of Irony i take it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-58094585530864837822007-04-25T09:04:00.000+01:002007-04-25T09:04:00.000+01:00WTF are you on about, zinzin?WTF are <I>you</I> on about, zinzin?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-74188121330984693212007-04-24T22:43:00.000+01:002007-04-24T22:43:00.000+01:00Sorry Dizzy not convinced. cameron starts well by ...Sorry Dizzy not convinced. cameron starts well by stating the obvious that we can not rely on the state to do everything and the patronisingly reminds us all of our responsibilities. Camerons big idea on crime and anti-social behaviour is buck your ideas up.<BR/><BR/>His idea if he has one will fail because individualism has triumphed over the collectivism and paternalism of the left and right. It is rather ironic that the New right gave us economic freedom and are now whining about the authoritarian state that they introduced at the same time. <BR/><BR/>At least frank Field has some decent ideas, pity that Cameron is bereft of them.<BR/><BR/>What happened to there is no such thing as society?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-43932059456006167142007-04-24T20:11:00.000+01:002007-04-24T20:11:00.000+01:00Not sure a politician giving a speech that sounded...Not sure a politician giving a speech that sounded like political academia would be as well received.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-24932288915371203012007-04-24T20:06:00.000+01:002007-04-24T20:06:00.000+01:00If what you are suggesting is, in actuality, what ...If what you are suggesting is, in actuality, what Cameron is saying, it's obviously to be welcomed with open arms.<BR/><BR/>However, if it is was he was suggesting, why didn't he make it abundantly clear himself - so that you didn't have to write your analysis?<BR/><BR/>He looks to be leaving so much 'wriggle room' in all that he says, that I'm less convinced about him now than I originally was.<BR/><BR/>The odd heartfelt, genuinely held and robustly expressed belief from <EM>any</EM> contemporary politician wouldn't go amiss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-37757757873782868692007-04-24T18:09:00.000+01:002007-04-24T18:09:00.000+01:00Absolutely right. I hate the arrogance of socialis...Absolutely right. I hate the arrogance of socialist politicians who think that they can somehow make the world a wonderful place just by passing a few hundred laws every year.<BR/><BR/>As Cameron says, this level of activity by the Government is actually more likely to make matters worse, as people think they don't have to care for other people, because the State has everything in hand.<BR/><BR/>We get used to being told what to do and how to do it, instead of taking responsibility for our own lives and those of our friends, family and neighbours. Again, as Cameron says, we get treated like children ... and so we act like children.<BR/><BR/>What we need, as a start, is more powers to local councils. The national government should only be concerned with national issues, with everything else, including health and education, dealt with at the council level.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-23480109503915941192007-04-24T16:41:00.000+01:002007-04-24T16:41:00.000+01:00So you mean that Cameron might be a conservative i...So you mean that Cameron might be a conservative in disguise after all ?!?!<BR/><BR/>Whatever next !monoihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00033153810120278513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-36561769982174483962007-04-24T11:26:00.000+01:002007-04-24T11:26:00.000+01:00no the picture is not to scaleno the picture is not to scaledizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-19686262246304911302007-04-24T11:19:00.000+01:002007-04-24T11:19:00.000+01:00Good post, and the picture made it for me. Althoug...Good post, and the picture made it for me. Although are you saying that under a tory govt the sate would be larger, as your pic suggests? <BR/><BR/>I hope not!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-34841577628609689692007-04-24T10:40:00.000+01:002007-04-24T10:40:00.000+01:00The picture clinched it for me. They paint a thous...The picture clinched it for me. They paint a thousand words you know.The Daily Pundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10897210727324532431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-45238415343272112822007-04-24T09:34:00.000+01:002007-04-24T09:34:00.000+01:00Incidnetally, there is an philosoophical ideology....Incidnetally, there is an philosoophical ideology. It's outlined above.. I even did a picture.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-89163981283106442652007-04-24T09:28:00.000+01:002007-04-24T09:28:00.000+01:00A worthy intellectual challenge to what I said the...A worthy intellectual challenge to what I said there Chris. Well done.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-33995827332883774342007-04-24T09:26:00.000+01:002007-04-24T09:26:00.000+01:00It's empty rhetoric and what Cameron the PR Sinner...It's empty rhetoric and what Cameron the PR Sinner, sorry Spinner, himself calls "Positioning". As the Tory members (from Brihouse, Calder Valley, Lab held marginal, retiring MP) on the Politics Show said:<BR/>"We don't want positioning, we want ideology"<BR/>The whole case of all those interviewed and therefore in the end of the piece was that Cameron cannot win back such places with wet flannel.<BR/><BR/>Now these Tories on the ground may be wrong (as Labour people were about Blair and his triangulations, though they're running out of steam) but I tend to think they're not wrong.<BR/><BR/>The two positions are virtually indistinguishable. The Tory state would obviously help to underline the rights and responsibilities in very similar if not identical ways to The Socialist (ha, chance would be a fine thing) State.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.com