tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post164748070387402551..comments2023-12-11T08:49:46.305+00:00Comments on Dizzy Thinks: +++ Telegraph Group takes down Dorries blog +++Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-46796063671597186412009-05-25T10:19:11.276+01:002009-05-25T10:19:11.276+01:00Cheers for the links.Cheers for the links.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-87121370120128290692009-05-25T09:40:53.554+01:002009-05-25T09:40:53.554+01:00In case Dizzy thinks that he is censoring my comme...In case Dizzy thinks that he is censoring my comments because they are libellous/unsubstantaiated they are not - evidence re loans by Ashcroft companies to Misick, the former Prime Minister of T&C can be found here<br /><br />http://tcfreepress.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=171:day-ii-the-20-million-dollar-question&catid=21:commission-of-inquiry&Itemid=68<br /><br />Evidence re Ashcroft's involvement in taking down the TCI Journal website is here <br /><br />http://www.tcweeklynews.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=1&twindow=&mad=&sdetail=1198&wpage=1&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=2404&hn=tcweeklynews&he=.comtory boys never grow uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11172736984147732661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-33636774711745967392009-05-24T22:19:48.085+01:002009-05-24T22:19:48.085+01:00I dislike censorship, and think that a blog should...I dislike censorship, and think that a blog should only be taken down by Court order (much like an emergency injunction to stop a newspaper publishing).<br /><br />But this may be for her own good - Nadine did seem to be posting increasingly bonkers comments.Begone!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-37233626234030634282009-05-24T16:00:20.868+01:002009-05-24T16:00:20.868+01:00Quote from Dorries blog:
'Treating a group of...Quote from Dorries blog:<br /><br />'Treating a group of people in this almost sadistic way is appalling and has to stop'<br /><br />I don't know what she's complaining about, smokers, thanks to her and her ilk, have been treated worse than murderers, terrorists & hardened criminals, and most of the MPs voted for smokers to be treated sadistically & appalling, even encouraged it.<br /><br />Now her and her ilk knows what it feels like to be demonised & denormalised. Smokers have been told by these so-called paragons of virtue, deal with it. Therefore I suggest the same to Dorries, deal with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-74308858893620428732009-05-24T14:08:53.544+01:002009-05-24T14:08:53.544+01:00First of all, if the MPs are finding it 'tortu...First of all, if the MPs are finding it 'torture' perhaps they should not have so keen to a)profit from expenses & b)refuse to reveal their expenses. Basically, they're reaping what they've sown. What would happen to a private individual who obtained money by fraud or who cheated HMRC? They might like to think about their mantra to us, the public, while snooping into every aspect of our lives 'nothing to hide, noting to fear'. The boot is now on the other foot & they don't like it - tough!<br />That said, I find the censorship of Nadine Dorries' blog frightening. While I may not agree with what she says, she has every right to state her opinion. She is still an elected representative of the the voters of the UK. Yet Big Business - in the shape of the Barclay Bros - is able to stifle her voice - that is wrong, wrong, wrong. I would refer readers to the exploits of the Brothers in Guernsey & Sark - democratic behavour? Not in my opinion. I will now do what so many other eeaders have done & try & get a cached copy of Nadine's blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-36688796512247257752009-05-24T07:40:14.274+01:002009-05-24T07:40:14.274+01:00So, has anyone done the statistics? Possibly a thi...So, has anyone done the statistics? Possibly a third of MPs have behaved sensibly realising the rules were bad rules and have implemented their own sensible interpretation. Another third are in a grey zone, and another third have been downright dishonest and they deserve what they get, as any citizen would.<br /><br />And now, don’t you detect an establishment closing of the ranks (don’t you get drawn into it Dizzy). And BTW, the AoC, the man who thinks Sharia is a good idea, is the last person I would look to for guidance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-22198823112205861682009-05-23T21:47:21.102+01:002009-05-23T21:47:21.102+01:00I just had a look at TDMWeb, very expensive for wh...I just had a look at TDMWeb, very expensive for what they offer, better off in the US!Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11155663096302125390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-85770952410330084312009-05-23T21:30:51.031+01:002009-05-23T21:30:51.031+01:00What about the fact that this data for the expense...What about the fact that this data for the expenses has again been lost from a Government department. After the Poyntner report last year how did they manage this on what should have been highly confidential data. Not only that they appear to have managed to het hold of a complete system/database and not just an extract of data. This sounds likely incredibly lax security at the heart of government. More thoughts <A HREF="http://www.microshaft.co.uk/2009/05/scandal-within-scandal.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>Fitaloonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872861873594626781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-27756999035195996272009-05-23T20:03:47.944+01:002009-05-23T20:03:47.944+01:00@Chris Morris: ISPs should have the same protectio...@Chris Morris: <I>ISPs should have the same protection that other "handlers" have - including Royal Mail and the phone companies.</I>I agree. ISPs should only be made to take down websites if they contain criminal content (such as incitement to violence). It's shocking how English libel law allows people to be intimidated into silence without cases reaching court. I remember a talk from Richard Evans where he recounted how difficult it was to publish his book about David Irving's lies even though Irving had lost his case against Penguin and Deborah Lipstadt.<br /><br />Dizzy, please understand I sympathise with your fears. I just think that no one should be forced to censor themselves like this in a "free" country. (I should also add I think Ms Dorries is a crank and that her allegations are farfetched.)Niklas Smithhttp://www.csld.org.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-36398936331045706202009-05-23T20:03:29.503+01:002009-05-23T20:03:29.503+01:00@Chris Morris: ISPs should have the same protectio...@Chris Morris: <I>ISPs should have the same protection that other "handlers" have - including Royal Mail and the phone companies.</I>I agree. ISPs should only be made to take down websites if they contain criminal content (such as incitement to violence). It's shocking how English libel law allows people to be intimidated into silence without cases reaching court. I remember a talk from Richard Evans where he recounted how difficult it was to publish his book about David Irving's lies even though Irving had lost his case against Penguin and Deborah Lipstadt.<br /><br />Dizzy, please understand I sympathise with your fears. I just think that no one should be forced to censor themselves like this in a "free" country. (I should also add I think Ms Dorries is a crank and that her allegations are farfetched.)Niklas Smithhttp://www.csld.org.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-6703351632607255682009-05-23T18:31:36.690+01:002009-05-23T18:31:36.690+01:00You know what, I think it's all just coincidence t...You know what, I think it's all just coincidence that the European elections are coming up soon, that UKIP have been kept out of the DT's never-ending 'revelations' until Ms Dorries pointed the finger, that her blog's been pulled down, that the Brotherhood are fiercely anti-Europe, that the DTs whipping-up of public outrage campaign has had no effect on voting intentions, although the public say it has....and yes I'm also taking the pissKing Canutenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-16644616620582704132009-05-23T18:24:26.021+01:002009-05-23T18:24:26.021+01:00She's a stressed, single mother of several nice, v...She's a stressed, single mother of several nice, vulnerable girls, and also in Parliament (which she probably never intended to be but you know, it just sort of happened) and out of her intellectual depth.<br /><br />Her blog is, er, kind of "Hello", "Ok", "Heat" , "Closer" type reading. <br /><br />She is not really "Enemy Class" Material, and should never have been allowed anywhere near...<br /> <br />...The Front Line.<br /><br />Please see Dr Sean Gabb and his website, for stuff about The Enemy Class.<br /><br />http://www.seangabb.co.uk<br /><br />or ours,<br /><br />http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com<br /><br />and just hit the search button.<br /><br />David Davis (not that one, I am the other one.)David Davishttp://libertarianalliance.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-35541037878869844022009-05-23T18:08:36.868+01:002009-05-23T18:08:36.868+01:00Apparently sales of pitch-fork sharpeners have gon...Apparently sales of pitch-fork sharpeners have gone through the roof, it's an ill wind....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-81322319894776787042009-05-23T17:17:20.808+01:002009-05-23T17:17:20.808+01:00Am not a Dorries supporter, but this appears to be...Am not a Dorries supporter, but this appears to be an outrage. <br /><br />Have blogged here: http://tinyurl.com/oj292xJack of Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00519002603649560097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-69698714242579457042009-05-23T16:45:57.586+01:002009-05-23T16:45:57.586+01:00Never has Politics been so much fun.
Long may any...Never has Politics been so much fun.<br /><br />Long may any organisation continue to expose the troughing & hypocracy of those who "govern" us.Joe Publicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-63711338166949582252009-05-23T16:40:18.903+01:002009-05-23T16:40:18.903+01:00The Telegraph, like MPs, don't like it up 'emThe Telegraph, like MPs, don't like it up 'emJohn McClanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06169978301785097717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-75390873564232294392009-05-23T16:35:32.339+01:002009-05-23T16:35:32.339+01:00I wonder how many of our leading, courageous, free...I wonder how many of our leading, courageous, freedom-fighting bloggers will have the guts to repost Nadine's 'offending' remarks? Haven't found one yet.David Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-10771146924945982452009-05-23T15:24:17.808+01:002009-05-23T15:24:17.808+01:00http://davidjonesblog.com/2009/05/23/not-a-witch-h...http://davidjonesblog.com/2009/05/23/not-a-witch-hunt/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-83590019169308652192009-05-23T14:26:04.803+01:002009-05-23T14:26:04.803+01:00Witch hunt?? What complete bollocks!
Has Dorries...Witch hunt?? What complete bollocks! <br /><br />Has Dorries any idea of what goes off when a businessman gets investigated by those vindictive and vicious subordinates of parliament, the Inland Revenue? A friend of mine nearly lost his marbles during a probe over a £2k tax bill that the revenue investigated over seven months and went down to the level of receipts for toilet paper. His wife was habitually in tears and was lucky not to have had a complete breakdown. The threats <br />were incessant and frightening. He really thought he was going to prison on <br />several occasions. What MPs are now facing is nothing in comparison.<br /><br />Dorries' expressed the view that it was commonly known <br />that the allowance system was there to subsidise their salary as their <br />salary is unfairly low. I would like to ask her if this was known to all MPs <br />or just a select majority? Because Philip Hollobone and Dennis Skinner and a <br />few others who are not wealthy in their own right, don't seem to have known <br />about it. Why was this information withheld from them?<br /><br />She says the Telegraph are dripping the story for commercial gain and at the same time persecuting good people. The DT has a terabyte of information and with all the will in the world, they could not publish, or investigate it, in one go. But Dorries and her friends have the power to stop the Telegraph in their tracks by publishing their claims themselves, thus stopping the "torture" and robbing the Telegraph of their exclusive. Oddly, they're not doing that, are they?The Amazing Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04269683258775831265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-48841180686677729392009-05-23T14:12:51.250+01:002009-05-23T14:12:51.250+01:00I'm not sure what your point is. I had to seek adv...I'm not sure what your point is. I had to seek advice on the letters and what could or could not be published about it.<br /><br />The initial post remains accurate. Lawyers sent a 'you are host and you are liable if you don't act' and the host acted.<br /><br />You got a problem with that?dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-83343244159756108452009-05-23T14:06:28.614+01:002009-05-23T14:06:28.614+01:00The implication appears to be that if the allegati...<I>The implication appears to be that if the allegations are removed from the content management system, then the blog will be able to go back online with the same provider</I>But you have only just made this clear. Just so we're clear.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-17615019391673138292009-05-23T13:52:31.634+01:002009-05-23T13:52:31.634+01:00You know what, I think it's all a conspiracy. Face...You know what, I think it's all a conspiracy. Faced with humiliation and anniliation at the polls next year, Gordon Brown has acted. <br /><br />First, he had a bucket load of MP expense info leaked to the Telegraph so that they could whip up a storm of controversy and protest around our elected representatives just before the Euro elections. Next, he has had his stooge on the Tory benches - Nadine Dorres - suggest the bizarre idea that the whole thing is a pro-UKIP plot. Just to really help give that some credibility, he's got the Barclay Bros to suspend Dorres blog. <br /><br />This is already bring seized upon by the usual moonbats, blogosphere, and rival papers as evidence. They will whip up the view that it is indeed all a pro-UKIP Barclays plot, an 'underminer', and that a general election in such circumstances would be irresponsible. In the coup de grace, Brown will call a state of national emergency, postpone elections, and declare himself Lord Protector. <br /><br />And yes, I am taking the piss, you tinfoil-hatted loons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-60336524424850697872009-05-23T13:22:08.385+01:002009-05-23T13:22:08.385+01:00You all could join the Libertarian Party , or dona...You all could join the Libertarian Party , or donate so that we can field candidates and then you would really have a choice at freedom rather than a two horse parliamentary system that is joined at both fetlocks to one cart called British Government<br /><br />Release your shackles and be free<br />www.lpuk.org<br /><br />wv outiol ( I shit ye not)Henry North London 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/14748991488145468593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-90578577098488451452009-05-23T13:10:17.478+01:002009-05-23T13:10:17.478+01:00Well done, Dizzy. A good piece.Well done, Dizzy. A good piece.jingoukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02657831452978882046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-67506324862712416002009-05-23T12:53:41.115+01:002009-05-23T12:53:41.115+01:00People need to step back from the self-righteous i...People need to step back from the self-righteous indignation thing for a minute, and consider if they may have been mere puppets for the DT's frenzy-mongering of the past fortnight. There's only one line that rings true through all of this, it's the timing- coming before the Euro elections, it was a guaranteed 'underminer', with the Euro-sceptic parties favoured by the Brothers Grim, coming out on top, resulting in (God forbid) a voice in Europe, which many see as the base for REAL power in this country.<br /> Some may say, 'yes but we wouldn't have known about addresses etc when the details came out'- are you seriously suggesting Mr Wick, with all his money and dubious contacts, wouldn't be able to ferret out such information?<br /> A general election in such circumstances would surely be irresponsible given the public feeling at the moment. A more measured decision, without the overriding influence of what might turn out to be a cynical campaign by said paper, is what's needed at the ballot-box.scaramangersnoreply@blogger.com