tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post115070642210224961..comments2023-12-11T08:49:46.305+00:00Comments on Dizzy Thinks: Why does the Left forget?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-1150740320707685322006-06-19T19:05:00.000+01:002006-06-19T19:05:00.000+01:00SPL - "Community relations", by which I assume you...SPL - "Community relations", by which I assume you mean radical Islamic nitwits, are not high up on my list of concerns. Crime, the economy, illegal immigrants, the parlous state of education in state schools ... these are important to the nation.<BR/><BR/>As is the right of every Briton to feel safe and protected on his own soil.<BR/><BR/>It is too bad the Brazilian got killed, but he was in the country illegally. That makes him a criminal. Obviously, I'm not saying he deserved a death sentence, but if he had obeyed the law, he would have been a long way away from London on that day.<BR/><BR/>Fifty-five innocent people died for no reason last July. Hundreds more were maimed. That means they were blinded or they had their arms and/or legs blown off. That is hundreds of families grieving for their loved ones.<BR/><BR/>The police did the correct thing at Forest Gate and the Islamics are just going to have to get used to it. Or "the vast majority who are just as appalled as we are" need to get some control over the lawless fundamentalists in "their communities".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-1150731466384789652006-06-19T16:37:00.000+01:002006-06-19T16:37:00.000+01:00Well to be fair I didn't say that criticism of the...Well to be fair I didn't say that criticism of the Police was the preserve of the Left, I said that the Left criticises with a myopic view of the past. <BR/><BR/>I note incidentally that you are critical of the Police but don't say what they should've done in Forest Gate instead.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-1150730304884766512006-06-19T16:18:00.000+01:002006-06-19T16:18:00.000+01:00I disagree. Criticising the police for their caval...I disagree. Criticising the police for their cavalier actions in Forest Gate, which damaged community relations irreparably, does not commit the fallacy of being "soft on terrorism".<BR/><BR/>Also, criticism of the police is not the exclusive preserve of the left.<BR/><BR/>As I write <A HREF="http://langfield.blogspot.com/2006/06/blairs-name-of-latest-flame.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>, for the mistakes he has made in leadership, and the lack of credibility within the force he now has, Blair should go.SPLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499448861385839223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-1150725471465851732006-06-19T14:57:00.000+01:002006-06-19T14:57:00.000+01:00You're two [sic] kind. I do my best with spelling,...You're two [sic] kind. I do my best with spelling, but I have fat fingers.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the question "what should the police have done?" was a general one rather than just specific to Forest Gate.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-1150725011330708122006-06-19T14:50:00.000+01:002006-06-19T14:50:00.000+01:00I know that facts are only occasionally welcome in...I know that facts are only occasionally welcome in blogs but the Brazilian was killed 15 days after the 52 innocent people were. Otherwise (and spelling aside), not a bad rehash of what one can read in the papers. However, before answering "What should the police have done?", it might be best to wait for the unleaked versions of the IPCC reports.nsflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09260773709764111311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-1150723390664845512006-06-19T14:23:00.000+01:002006-06-19T14:23:00.000+01:00I concur with Dizzy. But we should bear in mind t...I concur with Dizzy. But we should bear in mind that this is not stupidity on the part of the British government, but cupidity. The intention is to undermine and destroy the identity and fabric of Britain and if they have to make use of militant Islam to do it, so be it. <BR/><BR/>Re that handy gift to the left, Jean Charles de Menezes, it's too bad that he got killed, but he had overstayed his permission to remain in Britain by two years. If he'd left when he was legally obliged to do so, he would be smoothing on the suntan oil on Copacabana Beach even as we blog. <BR/><BR/>That he was not visited by Immigration when his permission to stay was up, and given a deadline for getting out, means that his death lies at the door of Tony Blair's hard left government, not the police.<BR/><BR/>I'm copying this post over on Dizzy's blog.<BR/><BR/>- AnonymousetteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com