tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post8833857468337088982..comments2023-12-11T08:49:46.305+00:00Comments on Dizzy Thinks: Gordon will continue to limp around AintreeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-21421189453138946152008-08-02T06:38:00.000+01:002008-08-02T06:38:00.000+01:00Miliband will not, says his friends, wield the kni...<B>Miliband will not, says his friends, wield the knife, but if someone else does he will stand.</B>dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-2884979620850569842008-08-02T01:26:00.000+01:002008-08-02T01:26:00.000+01:00However, on the flip side, by making it clear that...<B>However, on the flip side, by making it clear that he would run if only someone would do the dirty work to give him his chance, he effectively admits that he is indecisive, weak and lacking the quality that a leader must have if he hopes to successfully lead.</B><BR/><BR/>Where does it say that? <BR/><BR/>Funny, it came across as a well written article consisting of constructive ambiguity, constructive as to focus and ambiguous as to whom it should apply to.<BR/><BR/>Besides, the reality is if Miliband were to become Labour leader there is not enough time to remove all the shit on the very shitty end of the stick he would be getting. <BR/><BR/>I would be tempted to agree with your criticism about Miliband, but think this is just a little injection in the arm of Labour body-politic given both to kill pain and induce hallucinatory political visions. Unfortunately a very small section have reacted adversely to it, obviously less tolerant after one Blair-free year off the stuff.Democratic-Centrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09848866195325003502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-11547186198058816532008-07-31T14:18:00.000+01:002008-07-31T14:18:00.000+01:00Do you think that Gordon Brown really has no 'skel...Do you think that Gordon Brown really has no 'skeleton in the cupboard'? Surely a man in a grey suit could whisper something in his ear to persuade him to go quietly...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-78818171606294410222008-07-31T07:04:00.000+01:002008-07-31T07:04:00.000+01:00hi conand. The thing is - David Miliband is not '...hi conand. The thing is - David Miliband is not 'very stupid'. In fact he is 'super clever'. And 'posh' doesn't really come into it. Whatever to posh.<BR/><BR/>I would like to see Brown squirm - I'm sure DC is hoping Gordon will stay on for another year.<BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-7334469580198855492008-07-30T19:57:00.000+01:002008-07-30T19:57:00.000+01:00A night of the long knives would be really good fu...A night of the long knives would be really good fun and would destroy Labour and finish Brown off perfectly. A display of incompetent control-freak backstabbing, from the master would really make my year.<BR/> Miliband is a really very stupid posh bloke with the usual Labour mental problems.Conandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028671462205997161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-801823791490331252008-07-30T16:34:00.000+01:002008-07-30T16:34:00.000+01:00I don't think a change of leader would help very m...I don't think a change of leader would help very much. Labour has a severe shortage of talent. There are a few languishing on the back benches because they are not "one of us" but probably not enough of them.<BR/><BR/>My advice to GB would be to announce now that he will call an election next May or June.<BR/><BR/>That would <BR/><BR/>(a) Force his opponents to back him or sack him, as it would be now or never to wield the knife;<BR/><BR/>(b) Demonstrate that he respects the normal electoral cycle of Blair and Thatcher rather than holding on until the last minute like Major;<BR/><BR/>(c) Demonstrate a level of risk, i.e. committing himself to an election before he has to, and declaring it while he looks like losing;<BR/><BR/>(d) Allow him, if he loses, an election, the dignity of being defeated by the electorate rather than his party.<BR/><BR/>I never did subscribe to the view that Brown had been a wonderful Chancellor, the best he could have done was to make the Bank of England independent, and then resign. I could see that he had damaged the pension funds as soon as he changed the dividend tax. The tax credits system was fundamentally flawed from day one (not a bad idea, but it should have been based on weekly income and administerd by the DSS or whatever they're called nowadays). He increased national insurance while reducing income tax, which places an unfair burden on employment (Both parties have done this, and somehow the media don't challenge them).<BR/><BR/>GB has spent ten years taking the credit for a global boom, he can't complain about getting the blame for a global bust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-68437115804994353102008-07-30T14:02:00.000+01:002008-07-30T14:02:00.000+01:00David Miliband and Alan Johnson are both brainy, p...David Miliband and Alan Johnson are both brainy, persuasive and quite dishy. :)<BR/><BR/>I like the two of them - and I think that they could give David Cameron some serious competition. However, I doubt they can undo the damage that Gordon Brown has done.<BR/><BR/>It would be such a good general election/contest if Gordon Brown quit now. David Miliband and/or Alan Johnson could possibly beat David Cameron. Harman and Straw could never ever beat David Cameron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-45338290737330564862008-07-30T12:01:00.000+01:002008-07-30T12:01:00.000+01:00Would love to join but have a lunch date to get to...Would love to join but have a lunch date to get toodizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-31474188165722327162008-07-30T11:54:00.000+01:002008-07-30T11:54:00.000+01:00No idea if he'll go, I just enjoy watching him...No idea if he'll go, I just enjoy watching him & the others suffer after their crimes.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for being pernickety, I'm really only commenting to point out you've not corrected 'simultaneously'.<BR/><BR/>W.V. = nttut. A typo about Gordon?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-6644180417260871442008-07-30T11:46:00.000+01:002008-07-30T11:46:00.000+01:00http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Miliband...http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Miliband-Fuels-Labout-Leadership-Debate-1230-Lunchtime-Debate-Webchat/Article/200807415060065<BR/><BR/>Come and join the webchat at 12.30pm!<BR/>Best,<BR/>Julian@SkyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670479408023988090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-6641136211325973972008-07-30T11:26:00.000+01:002008-07-30T11:26:00.000+01:00I agree with the article. I just can't see how the...I agree with the article. I just can't see how they force him out without a vote of confidence, and there are enough MPs who are too scared of losing their seats to do that. The other possibility they face that if they do successfully instigate proceedings, he could decide to go nuclear and call an immediate election to spite them. It wouldn't strike me as out orf character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-41735270121138899942008-07-30T09:57:00.000+01:002008-07-30T09:57:00.000+01:00Typos mixed with dyslexia. Am going though it now ...Typos mixed with dyslexia. Am going though it now and correcting.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-73415815907950201162008-07-30T09:52:00.000+01:002008-07-30T09:52:00.000+01:00Good analysis. Lousy spelling.wot know spelchukka?...Good analysis. Lousy spelling.<BR/>wot know spelchukka?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-77846145030342602862008-07-30T09:43:00.000+01:002008-07-30T09:43:00.000+01:00LFAT: Doesn't need a Labour Party mechanism to re...LFAT: Doesn't need a Labour Party mechanism to remove Brown. Just sufficient of his current ministers to decline to continue to serve.<BR/><BR/>Once he's lost the confidence of colleagues - and by extension the House of Commons - no PM can survive.<BR/><BR/>How many is sufficient? Two or three Cabinet ministers should do it.<BR/><BR/>It really isn't that difficult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-7721588571803096722008-07-30T09:37:00.000+01:002008-07-30T09:37:00.000+01:00There are two important considerations here:1. Bro...There are two important considerations here:<BR/><BR/>1. Brown will never ever ever resign. Even cabinet colleagues won't be able to persuade him.<BR/><BR/>2. There is no mechanism in place within the Labour Party to remove him anytime soon.Letters From A Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612766550608940053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-32107921373598356622008-07-30T09:27:00.000+01:002008-07-30T09:27:00.000+01:00I disagree. I wouldn't have before Glasgow, but th...I disagree. I wouldn't have before Glasgow, but the momentum is getting too much now. GB will be gone by Christmas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com