tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post1898001455742671567..comments2023-12-11T08:49:46.305+00:00Comments on Dizzy Thinks: Tax credits don't deliver social justice, so scrap themUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-81010720551822719852009-05-21T08:36:23.665+01:002009-05-21T08:36:23.665+01:00Your update contains one clue you need to why Labo...Your update contains one clue you need to why Labour supports tax credits: they have helped Gordon to fiddle the economic figures for a decade. Because the money given as additional benefits to the unemployed, disabled and (massively) pensioners is defined as a 'tax credit' it is deducted from tax receipts, counting as lower taxes rather than higher public spending.<br /><br />The other reason is harder to comprehend, but I'm sure it is true: both Labour and the HMRC think that taxation is intrinsically good and want as many people as possible to be grateful for the existence of the taxation system. They actually believe that filling in a complicated form in order to get your own money 'generously' passed back to you in unpredictable amounts gives the public the same warm feeling as filling in a lottery ticket - reminding us that the money we don't actually get back goes to good causes. Watch a fes Tax Credit commercials and try to view them through the eyes of the person who approved them. The tax credit processes are them helping us to help them help us, all working together as a happy collective family.Guy Herberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05722465635939181962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-14820676789224069602009-05-20T22:23:58.530+01:002009-05-20T22:23:58.530+01:00I could not agree more. December 2008 I was made r...I could not agree more. December 2008 I was made redundant, therefore our household income dramatically fell, my wife’s income £22k. In April I phone the tax credit people to ask for the form for tax credits. I was told that I was not eligible because I had earned too much money the previous year. This is their only criteria, how much you earned the previous year. So I have paid tax into the system, but I am not allowed to claw it back when my circumstances changed. <br />There are two types of people in this country, those who pay tax and those who receive it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-1725221949719463992009-05-20T19:13:12.460+01:002009-05-20T19:13:12.460+01:00At a time when the great unwashed public has every...At a time when the great unwashed public has every good cause to be questioning the trustworthiness and competency of MPs, it is high time to move the agenda onto a re-consideration of the policies of recent years. The tax credit system remains an utter disgrace, both in its design and its implementation. We also need not to overlook that the system is so broken that very susbtantial amounts have leaked from the public coffers through tax credit fraud. Anecdotal evidence suggests that well in excess of £1BN plus has been lost forever to organised fraudsters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-15229848787646528722009-05-20T13:36:43.414+01:002009-05-20T13:36:43.414+01:00I probably should have made clear that I am referr...I probably should have made clear that I am referring to Working Tax Credit, not the credits which are paid to people who are not working.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-91506759711543843912009-05-20T13:23:52.999+01:002009-05-20T13:23:52.999+01:00I'm disabled but looking for work sadly my disabil...I'm disabled but looking for work sadly my disability is a lesion of the spinal cord which means from the waist down nothing works, I've got two kids both in school I get £90 in child credits, which means I get this money to help me on benefits of £125 all in. Stopping the credits would hit me hard, now I know that I should be of course working sadly with my problems to be honest the chance of me finding work is like well a dead person.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186557603493331701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-48316084183458971542009-05-20T11:52:45.348+01:002009-05-20T11:52:45.348+01:00You'd think you could bring minimum wage into this...You'd think you could bring minimum wage into this. By the joys of our tax system, a person working full time on 'minimum wage' (as defined by government) pays an overall rate of 15. Surely, by definition, minimum wage workers should pay no tax.<br /><br />They just don't seem to understand that you don't bring people out of poverty by giving them other people's money. You bring people out of poverty by letting them earn and keep their own money.Mark Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00437341898224311426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22202011.post-10610036466550474602009-05-20T11:08:02.878+01:002009-05-20T11:08:02.878+01:00Totally agree there should be an earnings figure w...Totally agree there should be an earnings figure where people just do not pay any tax. However this Government would just put up VAT to claw it all back so it would be self defeating.<br />Regarding tax credits and all the other benefits, one needs to look into the people actually running the departments that deal with these things.<br />Most break the law routinely and most don't give a dam because of the people the system serves.Rocksteady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06186595124497424826noreply@blogger.com